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vNirvana
Jun 26 2013, 06:05 PM, updated 3 years ago
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2 weeks ago, a friend of mine introduced this financial and investment company to me.
What I got from him is I just need to put Rm3000 into the account for 18months and each month I will be able to get 3% of interest rate.
I have google about this company and so far I cant get any further information.
So i wondering is there any sifu here able to justify and enlighten me on this ?
thanks
yklooi
Jun 26 2013, 06:23 PM
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Look at all my stars!!
is this familiar?, Read this...http://www.sec.gov/answers/ponzi.htm
cychoy
Jul 4 2013, 10:41 AM
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guaranteed 3% interest each month............ 101% illegal scheme. Please report to BNM or SC. Thanks.
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vNirvana
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QUOTE(cychoy @ Jul 4 2013, 10:41 AM)
guaranteed 3% interest each month............ 101% illegal scheme. Please report to BNM or SC. Thanks.
How to report to SC or BNM ? swt, after did some research on it.. here is what i found..
MAXIM CAPITAL LIMITED | FSP252705
Date of deregistration: 29 November 2012
Source - http://www.business.govt.nz/fsp/news-updat...e-18-april-2013
cychoy
Jul 4 2013, 06:28 PM
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You can email to bnmtelelink@bnm.gov.my
Anythinglah
Jul 6 2013, 01:59 AM
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Please report for the benefit of others. Thanks.
ProperTYcoon
Jul 6 2013, 11:09 AM
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are they recognized by the BNM ?
moneymarket
Aug 8 2013, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE(vNirvana @ Jun 26 2013, 07:05 PM)
2 weeks ago, a friend of mine introduced this financial and investment company to me.
What I got from him is I just need to put Rm3000 into the account for 18months and each month I will be able to get 3% of interest rate.
I have google about this company and so far I cant get any further information.
So i wondering is there any sifu here able to justify and enlighten me on this ?
thanks
You don't need to worry about Maxim Trader. Maxim Trader is one of the fastest growing company today. I've been in this company for 3mos. and I get all my profit. If you listen to those people who know nothing and spoiler you will achieve nothing. If you really want to know the things you want to know,ask the right people.
if you have further question about maxim,you are very much welcome to ask me.
seiluen
Aug 8 2013, 06:48 PM
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QUOTE(moneymarket @ Aug 8 2013, 05:57 PM)
You don't need to worry about Maxim Trader. Maxim Trader is one of the fastest growing company today. I've been in this company for 3mos. and I get all my profit. If you listen to those people who know nothing and spoiler you will achieve nothing. If you really want to know the things you want to know,ask the right people.
if you have further question about maxim,you are very much welcome to ask me.
Are you from this company ?
vanguish
Aug 10 2013, 05:38 PM
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http://cforum1.cari.com.my/forum.php?mod=v...&extra=page%3D1
[原创] OFX GroupLimited,即将改名成OGL Trader,IBS会员的亲身经历,警惕大家别跌入老千局 [复制链接]
Just saw this link in my FB. i cant understand chinese, for those who can, maybe you care to translate.
8055cv
Aug 14 2013, 07:40 PM
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QUOTE(vanguish @ Aug 10 2013, 05:38 PM)
http://cforum1.cari.com.my/forum.php?mod=v...&extra=page%3D1
[原创] OFX GroupLimited,即将改名成OGL Trader,IBS会员的亲身经历,警惕大家别跌入老千局 [复制链接]
Just saw this link in my FB. i cant understand chinese, for those who can, maybe you care to translate.
Well, basically it meant that OFX Group Limited changed the company's name to OFL Trader and finally to IBS.
Anyone encounter any of it ? including Maxim Trader...
qwertyuioped
Aug 14 2013, 08:25 PM
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On my way
There's no guarantee in the world of investing.
vanguish
Aug 21 2013, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE(8055cv @ Aug 14 2013, 07:40 PM)
Well, basically it meant that OFX Group Limited changed the company's name to OFL Trader and finally to IBS.
Anyone encounter any of it ? including Maxim Trader...
Hi I have no idea about the Ofx...ofl..ibs.. or maxim trader... I only trade with regulated broker.
just that i saw this post and saw the FB shared posting abou this. So i thought you guys might be interested, so i had them posted here.
ProperTYcoon
Aug 21 2013, 04:47 PM
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this is a scam
chinamsia
Aug 21 2013, 06:07 PM
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Any non regulated broker 101 percent is scam
ProperTYcoon
Aug 22 2013, 09:44 AM
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if I'm not mistaken, Maxim Trader is actually a company of
Forex Trading
cwhong
Aug 22 2013, 07:53 PM
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Growth company seeker ..... :)
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QUOTE(moneymarket @ Aug 8 2013, 05:57 PM)
You don't need to worry about Maxim Trader. Maxim Trader is one of the fastest growing company today. I've been in this company for 3mos. and I get all my profit. If you listen to those people who know nothing and spoiler you will achieve nothing. If you really want to know the things you want to know,ask the right people.
if you have further question about maxim,you are very much welcome to ask me.
Then pls share what u have in your products do benefitted us for investment purpose....... Please share openly I want all forumers make profit too....... Thanks.....
spyder79
Sep 27 2013, 11:38 AM
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Maxim trader Presentation
This is the screenshot of my dividend.
As long as you don't trade in your MT4. your principle amount is guaranteed of 3-8% monthly for 18 month.
Screenshot myfxbook tracking both maxim trade account from Jun onward
You can go to myfxbook to register and check out the account youself. both account have capital start up of $5 mil
Maxim 01
Maxim 02
odySSeys
Oct 21 2013, 10:40 PM
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Any clearer information of this Maxim Trader. Nothing much can be found in the internet.
sheahann
Oct 28 2013, 10:59 PM
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Crashing like a tidal wave..
Like usual things going on.
Starting really pay out to investor. Once more and more ppl believe it, when the account is huge enough. Owner will poof gone will all the money. So many case ady. But Duno this applied o not. Nth too good is true. If everything is so good, big company already invest billions in it. Still need small potatoes like us to invest 30k?
fkmfkm
Nov 2 2013, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE(chinamsia @ Aug 21 2013, 06:07 PM)
Any non regulated broker 101 percent is scam
How to check regulated or not ?
qwertyuioped
Nov 2 2013, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE(fkmfkm @ Nov 2 2013, 04:31 PM)
How to check regulated or not ?
check their website if they are regulated by a professional bodies in the uk or us. those cyprus or cayman islands punya 'regulated broker' dont put too much trust in it.
legendlowe
Apr 1 2014, 08:03 PM
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Previously I was told only to invest say USD5,000 and will get 5% per month for interest. Tonight when Maxim Trader people from KL to Perth tried to help me to register and transfer the fund, ONLY at this instance I was told besides the USD5,000, I had to pay upfront a 10% service (ie USD500) to Maxim Trader. I was shocked and decided not to proceed as I'm already not comfortable with this type of risky overseas investment and now expect me to pay 10% for their service.
This definitely throw me off. I rather invest in more reliable investment.
This post has been edited by legendlowe: Apr 1 2014, 08:16 PM
bulkbiz
Apr 2 2014, 10:09 AM
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If they said guarantee 3%, I can 100% confirm it is illegal. There is no such thing as guarantee.
TIACSW
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QUOTE(vNirvana @ Jun 26 2013, 06:05 PM)
2 weeks ago, a friend of mine introduced this financial and investment company to me.
What I got from him is I just need to put Rm3000 into the account for 18months and each month I will be able to get 3% of interest rate.
I have google about this company and so far I cant get any further information.
So i wondering is there any sifu here able to justify and enlighten me on this ?
thanks
Please note that this company has been delisted and is in the list of consumer alert under BNM
http://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=en_fina...eralert&lang=en
Maxim Capital = Maxim Trader
TIACSW
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How to check regulated or not ?
Maxim Trader / Maxim Capital
They are currently back in Malaysia trying to get people to invest in Forex trading. They are not recognized by BNM. Please spread the word and don't fall for the temptation to make quick money... A friend has just been contacted to join them.
http://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=en_fina...eralert&lang=en
Bonescythe
Apr 2 2014, 06:10 PM
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Maxim... I only know about Maxim Hotel in Genting
Kinji Chiang
Apr 8 2014, 02:32 PM
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I from T1FX, partnership with Instaforex
www.tripleonefx.com (Only provide system to auto trade currency)
www.instaforex.com (Investor capital will put on Instaforex)
you can search on google or anywhere~
Your capital will protected by RAFMM(Russian Association of Financial Market Members)
No lock capital, having a individual account(withdraw/transfer fund in two day working hours)
Currency fund interest around 10%-30% per year~
Anyone Interest can reply me, Thanks
Azurika
Apr 8 2014, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE(Kinji Chiang @ Apr 8 2014, 02:32 PM)
I from T1FX, partnership with Instaforex
www.tripleonefx.com (Only provide system to auto trade currency)
www.instaforex.com (Investor capital will put on Instaforex)
you can search on google or anywhere~
Your capital will protected by RAFMM(Russian Association of Financial Market Members)
No lock capital, having a individual account(withdraw/transfer fund in two day working hours)
Currency fund interest around 10%-30% per year~
Anyone Interest can reply me, Thanks
If is that great, I dont see why banks use this platform, instead of paying their forex team so much
Kinji Chiang
Apr 8 2014, 07:04 PM
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QUOTE(Azurika @ Apr 8 2014, 05:01 PM)
If is that great, I dont see why banks use this platform, instead of paying their forex team so much
Bank sure will using the system to invest currency by system
system called EA(ExpertAdvisor) System
Its the same around 10~30% every year income~ but banks only give customer 3% due to another interest need to payout their employee,machine,open new banks etc~
You will not know how the bank's doing their investment unless you have banker friends working at bank
Azurika
Apr 8 2014, 09:11 PM
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QUOTE(Kinji Chiang @ Apr 8 2014, 07:04 PM)
Bank sure will using the system to invest currency by system
system called EA(ExpertAdvisor) System
Its the same around 10~30% every year income~ but banks only give customer 3% due to another interest need to payout their employee,machine,open new banks etc~
You will not know how the bank's doing their investment unless you have banker friends working at bank
My uncle is the CEO of "x" bank in Malaysia , hence I do know many ways the bank earn's from investments and how they are the biggest loan sharks around as he shares many information and knowledge.
I will check with him on the validity of the sites/broker mentioned above.
Cheers ~
Kinji Chiang
Apr 8 2014, 11:08 PM
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QUOTE(Azurika @ Apr 8 2014, 09:11 PM)
My uncle is the CEO of "x" bank in Malaysia , hence I do know many ways the bank earn's from investments and how they are the biggest loan sharks around as he shares many information and knowledge.
I will check with him on the validity of the sites/broker mentioned above.
Cheers ~
Wow!! That's impressive!
Our here has few "x" banker and 1 xxM member joined invest here too
Sure you may check with him as well that I mention above just now^^
Cheers~~
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QUOTE(Azurika @ Apr 8 2014, 09:11 PM)
My uncle is the CEO of "x" bank in Malaysia , hence I do know many ways the bank earn's from investments and how they are the biggest loan sharks around as he shares many information and knowledge.
I will check with him on the validity of the sites/broker mentioned above.
Cheers ~
Once again nice to meet you, Azurika^^
Any question you can ask me as well~
darkaen
Apr 29 2014, 10:59 AM
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Maxim Trader does NOT guarantee anything other than your capital refund at the end of 18 months! Moreover, this is only provided with the agreement that you did NOT self-trade on your Meta Trader 4 account.
Maxim Trader will pay 0%-8% performance returns based on our Forex traders' trading results and this is indicative only. Our results are posted publicly for the world to see on MyFxBook. MyFxBook is an open Forex trader community website which verifies traders' trading performance and is provided by FxPro, a leading Forex broker.
We are also the official Show Partner for the ultra prestigious Singapore Yacht Show which took place at Singapore Sentosa Cove from 10-13 April 2014.
If any of you can show evidence that Maxim Trader is a scam, I will quit right away. But if Maxim Trader is not a scam (and based on my extensive investigation, it is NOT a scam, it is a genuine Forex broker with a genuine business of Forex trading on your capital margins), then I invite you to stop your unbelief or bias and come invest your hard earned money with us.
p/s1. Malaysians, please note that we are an offshore finance company and that your government warnings are valid in your country. Kindly do your own due diligence before signing on the dotted line with us.
p/s2. The right question any investor should ask is not, "Is this risky?" but rather, "Can I afford this risk?" (cf. Jack Ma, Founder, alibaba.com)
p/s3. Asking why big Forex institutions such as banks did not invest in Maxim Trader is like asking why Maybank will not park their funds with Public Bank. Of course NOT, because they are in the same business! Do you understand what I am trying to say?
yw46
Apr 29 2014, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(darkaen @ Apr 29 2014, 10:59 AM)
p/s3. Asking why big Forex institutions such as banks did not invest in Maxim Trader is like asking why Maybank will not park their funds with Public Bank. Of course NOT, because they are in the same business! Do you understand what I am trying to say?
ever heard of overnight market ?
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ever heard of overnight market ?
And what about it?
wodenus
May 1 2014, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE(darkaen @ Apr 29 2014, 10:59 AM)
Maxim Trader does NOT guarantee anything other than your capital refund at the end of 18 months! Moreover, this is only provided with the agreement that you did NOT self-trade on your Meta Trader 4 account.
Maxim Trader will pay 0%-8% performance returns based on our Forex traders' trading results and this is indicative only. Our results are posted publicly for the world to see on MyFxBook. MyFxBook is an open Forex trader community website which verifies traders' trading performance and is provided by FxPro, a leading Forex broker.
We are also the official Show Partner for the ultra prestigious Singapore Yacht Show which took place at Singapore Sentosa Cove from 10-13 April 2014.
If any of you can show evidence that Maxim Trader is a scam, I will quit right away. But if Maxim Trader is not a scam (and based on my extensive investigation, it is NOT a scam, it is a genuine Forex broker with a genuine business of Forex trading on your capital margins), then I invite you to stop your unbelief or bias and come invest your hard earned money with us.
p/s1. Malaysians, please note that we are an offshore finance company and that your government warnings are valid in your country. Kindly do your own due diligence before signing on the dotted line with us.
p/s2. The right question any investor should ask is not, "Is this risky?" but rather, "Can I afford this risk?" (cf. Jack Ma, Founder, alibaba.com)
p/s3. Asking why big Forex institutions such as banks did not invest in Maxim Trader is like asking why Maybank will not park their funds with Public Bank. Of course NOT, because they are in the same business! Do you understand what I am trying to say?
No one is saying that it is a scam, it's just not legal if it's not licensed. If large amounts of money suddenly show up in your account they will start investigating, and then they will find that what you are doing is illegal, and then you will be shut down and your accounts frozen. How do you expect to return anything after that
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May 2 2014, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE(darkaen @ Apr 29 2014, 10:59 AM)
Maxim Trader does NOT guarantee anything other than your capital refund at the end of 18 months! Moreover, this is only provided with the agreement that you did NOT self-trade on your Meta Trader 4 account.
Maxim Trader will pay 0%-8% performance returns based on our Forex traders' trading results and this is indicative only. Our results are posted publicly for the world to see on MyFxBook. MyFxBook is an open Forex trader community website which verifies traders' trading performance and is provided by FxPro, a leading Forex broker.
We are also the official Show Partner for the ultra prestigious Singapore Yacht Show which took place at Singapore Sentosa Cove from 10-13 April 2014.
If any of you can show evidence that Maxim Trader is a scam, I will quit right away. But if Maxim Trader is not a scam (and based on my extensive investigation, it is NOT a scam, it is a genuine Forex broker with a genuine business of Forex trading on your capital margins), then I invite you to stop your unbelief or bias and come invest your hard earned money with us.
p/s1. Malaysians, please note that we are an offshore finance company and that your government warnings are valid in your country. Kindly do your own due diligence before signing on the dotted line with us.
p/s2. The right question any investor should ask is not, "Is this risky?" but rather, "Can I afford this risk?" (cf. Jack Ma, Founder, alibaba.com)
p/s3. Asking why big Forex institutions such as banks did not invest in Maxim Trader is like asking why Maybank will not park their funds with Public Bank. Of course NOT, because they are in the same business! Do you understand what I am trying to say?
I was introduced into Maxim and I read in the 'private investment agreement' that the monthly capital gain is guaranteed. Can you brief me more on this?
magpiethegreat
May 25 2014, 01:16 AM
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QUOTE(darkaen @ Apr 29 2014, 10:59 AM)
If any of you can show evidence that Maxim Trader is a scam, I will quit right away. But if Maxim Trader is not a scam (and based on my extensive investigation, it is NOT a scam, it is a genuine Forex broker with a genuine business of Forex trading on your capital margins), then I invite you to stop your unbelief or bias and come invest your hard earned money with us.
p/s1. Malaysians, please note that we are an offshore finance company and that your government warnings are valid in your country. Kindly do your own due diligence before signing on the dotted line with us.
1: explain why most of the web traffic are ONLY from China and Malaysia here :alexa maxim
2: Where is your head office? I was told that it is in New Zealand (?) Have you ever been there? The address given by the site is Level 8, 10/12 Scotia Place, Suite 11, Auckland City Centre, Auckland, 1010, New Zealand.
and i found zero valid information of this.
3: Based on your extensive investigation, tell me more about Royale Globe Holding Inc.
My brief investigation doesn't look promising, here you are:
http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/rogp/sec-filings
http://investing.money.msn.com/investments...gs/?symbol=ROGP
http://investing.businessweek.com/research...asp?ticker=ROGP
i personally don't think it's big enough to subsidize a multi-millions forex business
virtually zero web traffic is suspicious to be honest: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/http%3A%2F%2...rogpholding.com
Try google some of the informations stated on the site, they lead to nowhere, except for Maxim Trader of course.
for example : Maricom , My Cameron Hills (MYCH), Super Star Hotel Chain etc
Google shows that Maxim seems to be the core of the company. Which one of your self-proclaimed broker ( with no proper financing education) told me that Maxim is just a subsidiary of Royale Globe Holding Inc.
And many more that i lazy to state.
I would like to know more about your extensive investigation, because like any else i wanna earn some easy money. i mean wow,up to 8% of income. By the way, only Malaysian FX brokers offer this kind of service, so called investment. Think about it, they shouldn't call them self broker, the business they are doing is not forex anymore. It's more like MLM or even the Pon** scheme, so please, don't tell people you are a FX broker/ trader, it is an insult to the field. People, please consult people with actuarial science's degree, ask if it is possible for someone to guarantee that kind of profit in forex.
spreeeee
Jun 8 2014, 02:27 PM
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So where is the malaysia office of this maximtrader.. This still co. still not really transparent enough in many areas..
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Bonescythe
Jun 8 2014, 02:39 PM
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Guarantee 3%?
Sounds like another similar Geneva kind of scheme.
Probably smells like it too.
Act also quite a like.
Just that it is not dealing with gold, it is dealing with forex.
But of all, guarantee 3% a month.
Hmm....
That's 36% a year.
tommy9097
Jun 14 2014, 09:07 PM
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Guys , this company has been receiving plenty of awards including Asian honesty award , most innovative broker of the year and many awards, check out their Facebook for more information. They also have their premier club office set up in Hong Kong , one more thing , they allows us to access to their trading accounts at myfxbook.com which really shows their profit that explains the high return they can pay to the investors , can a scam company receive these much awards ? Quite curious .. What do you guys think?
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Jun 14 2014, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE(tommy9097 @ Jun 14 2014, 09:07 PM)
Guys , this company has been receiving plenty of awards including Asian honesty award , most innovative broker of the year and many awards, check out their Facebook for more information. They also have their premier club office set up in Hong Kong , one more thing , they allows us to access to their trading accounts at myfxbook.com which really shows their profit that explains the high return they can pay to the investors , can a scam company receive these much awards ? Quite curious .. What do you guys think?
Why such a big company (so-called) would use myfxbook ?
magpiethegreat
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jun 8 2014, 02:39 PM)
Guarantee 3%?
Sounds like another similar Geneva kind of scheme.
Probably smells like it too.
Act also quite a like.
Just that it is not dealing with gold, it is dealing with forex.
But of all, guarantee 3% a month.
Hmm....
That's 36% a year.
Not only 3%, if you deposit 30k USD ( yea, unprofessionally it is a round number lol) u'll get 8% per month
look at the post of one of their members.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=243...&type=3&theater
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QUOTE(magpiethegreat @ Jun 14 2014, 10:54 PM)
Why such a big company (so-called) would use myfxbook ?
Hmm could it be possible that it also expects people to be doubtful about their ability in making profit, so fxbook is used to improve the transparency for its investors to access to their trading in order to gain confidence? Anyway , from my knowledge, the investor's funds is secured by its parental company, royale globe holding in the case of maximtrader's insolvency, hmm sounds safer this way? What are you guy's opinion?
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QUOTE(tommy9097 @ Jun 14 2014, 09:07 PM)
Guys , this company has been receiving plenty of awards including Asian honesty award , most innovative broker of the year and many awards, check out their Facebook for more information. They also have their premier club office set up in Hong Kong , one more thing , they allows us to access to their trading accounts at myfxbook.com which really shows their profit that explains the high return they can pay to the investors , can a scam company receive these much awards ? Quite curious .. What do you guys think?
these are call packaging. Plus those aren't significant awards.
we don't even know who are the board members. what i see it, it looks luxury from the outside, but if you think again and analyse further, you will find out that it's actually empty. A normal forex company/investment company doesn't need these gimmicks
Those important members aren't really professionals and they don't even speak good english (contradictory to what a multi-millions company should be, plus they say all the professional traders ) . My guess is someone which has a bigger role is behind all this. I'm not sure if u've saw those people who received awards (took photos with medias), i got the facebook of one of them. Look very unprofessional, 2/3 years ago he was nobody and of course he doesn't even have a financing degree.
I would say, maybe it is true that they trade with your money and share the profit with you (how generous).However this is a surely a risky company to put your hard earn-money in it. Choose a better forex company if you wanna trade currency. I dont know you, but if i own maxim ( so called big company with large capital), and if i could guarantee such profit, i would rather trade with my own money and stop all kind of fussy recruiting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzpInpTQk84 btw look at this lol
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Hmm could it be possible that it also expects people to be doubtful about their ability in making profit, so fxbook is used to improve the transparency for its investors to access to their trading in order to gain confidence? Anyway , from my knowledge, the investor's funds is secured by its parental company, royale globe holding in the case of maximtrader's insolvency, hmm sounds safer this way? What are you guy's opinion?
look at post 39. are you one of their members?
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look at post 39. are you one of their members?
Just read.. I am not yet their member but almost ... So google lead me here lol. Okay, well, I'm new into forex therefore, i am really curious if it's a scam , could it be the biggest global scam , is there ever such similar scam cases in history? Btw, I just went though it's Facebook again, and noticed it's just awarded in Dubai again. Hmmm...
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QUOTE(magpiethegreat @ Jun 14 2014, 11:04 PM)
Not only 3%, if you deposit 30k USD ( yea, unprofessionally it is a round number lol) u'll get 8% per month
look at the post of one of their members.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=243...&type=3&theater
There is a catch la.
Monthly returns "up to"
Possible only.. not guarantee
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lol awards, certifications, regulations are nothing if its not given/awarded by a reputable gov/non-gov bodies. heck i can open a company and award myself as the best employee of the year if like that.
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QUOTE(tommy9097 @ Jun 15 2014, 12:01 AM)
Just read.. I am not yet their member but almost ... So google lead me here lol. Okay, well, I'm new into forex therefore, i am really curious if it's a scam , could it be the biggest global scam , is there ever such similar scam cases in history? Btw, I just went though it's Facebook again, and noticed it's just awarded in Dubai again. Hmmm...
I can't be 100% sure if maxim is a scam. if i wanna invest money i would want it to at least appear on the first in page google search, with maxim as keyword. try yourself lol
And IF it is really a scam, it is just a normal ponzi scam. They just repackaged it with FOREX, and still the core of the main income is still the mighty ponzi scheme. Old trick but still applicable as greed is part of human nature. remember swiss cash? Malaysians are easily attracted in this.
No, it wouldn't be the biggest global scam. I doubt they have many investors in foreign countries. Those activities in foreign countries are just the packaging to gain trust in my opionion. They can pay to attend those exhibition.
investment scam? the first one that came across my mind was bernard madoff. His is just simple ponzi scheme. Check this out you will be amazed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8e8Aq3Ss0o
im not sure how creditable is the dubai award. but i remember when they bragged about one of the awards they received in china, my research told me that it was just a peanut award and like the same award can be given to 20 companies.
im just giving my opinions though. they can be wrong too. but mr.google tells me that im correct, and time will prove. it may take 10 or even 15 years. Surely u still can "invest" and "earn" from it before the bubble bursts!
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There is a catch la.
Monthly returns "up to"
Possible only.. not guarantee
What is ur opinion about this company?
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There is a catch la.
Monthly returns "up to"
Possible only.. not guarantee
their 20+ year old university students broker told me 100%.
lol, that's why i dont trust this. They brag about how big they are, and yet they let those people with no financing experience become their broker. is this a forex company ?
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I can't be 100% sure if maxim is a scam. if i wanna invest money i would want it to at least appear on the first in page google search, with maxim as keyword. try yourself lol
And IF it is really a scam, it is just a normal ponzi scam. They just repackaged it with FOREX, and still the core of the main income is still the mighty ponzi scheme. Old trick but still applicable as greed is part of human nature. remember swiss cash? Malaysians are easily to be attracted in this.
No, it wouldn't be the biggest global scam. I doubt they have many investors in foreign countries. Those activities in foreign countries are just the packaging to gain trust in my opionion. They can pay to attend those exhibition.
investment scam? the first one that came across my mind was bernard madoff. His is just simple ponzi scheme. Check this out you will be amazed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8e8Aq3Ss0o
im not sure how creditable is the dubai award. but i remember when they bragged about one of the awards they received in china, my research told me that it was just a peanut award and like the same award can be given to 20 companies.
im just giving my opinions though. they can be wrong too. but mr.google tells me that im correct, and time will prove. it may takes 10 or even 15 years. Surely u still can "invest" and "earn" from it before the bubble bursts!
Noted, your input is much appreciated, learned a lot with your investigating skill, especially checking on the web traffic lol, thanks bro. Btw, any of u heard of MPA? That one is using regulated brokers, with unguranteed annual return on investment for 10k usd account holders , about 20-30% annually , claiming to generate profit with their ATS, trading robot. Opinions?
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Noted, your input is much appreciated, learned a lot with your investigating skill, especially checking on the web traffic lol, thanks bro. Btw, any of u heard of MPA? That one is using regulated brokers, with unguranteed annual return on investment for 10k usd account holders , about 20-30% annually , claiming to generate profit with their ATS, trading robot. Opinions?
is it this? http://mypartneradvisor.com/
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is it this? http://mypartneradvisor.com/
Yes
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Yes
https://www.facebook.com/ransonctw?fref=pb&...profile_browser
ranson chi...
i'll give u some link and you judge yourself?
if i say too much, who knows, they may sue my
http://www.forexpeacearmy.com/forex-forum/...58-midcofx.html
http://www.forexpeacearmy.com/forex-forum/...nancing-14.html
http://ramboong.blogspot.com/2012/12/how-t...rex-broker.html
if you read chinese
http://cforum2.cari.com.my/forum.php?mod=v...ead&tid=2958315
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QUOTE(magpiethegreat @ Jun 15 2014, 12:54 AM)
https://www.facebook.com/ransonctw?fref=pb&...profile_browser
ranson chi...
i'll give u some link and you judge yourself?
if i say too much, who knows, they may sue my
http://www.forexpeacearmy.com/forex-forum/...58-midcofx.html
http://www.forexpeacearmy.com/forex-forum/...nancing-14.html
http://ramboong.blogspot.com/2012/12/how-t...rex-broker.html
if you read chinese
http://cforum2.cari.com.my/forum.php?mod=v...ead&tid=2958315
Thanks for the info, oh ya one thing I forgot about maximtrader, i was told that it's financial activities is monitored by one very reputable company , www.premiuminsured.com . What do you think about it? I checked on all the clients of premiuminsured among all the 6. All other financial services are established and are big financial company. Opinion?
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Thanks for the info, oh ya one thing I forgot about maximtrader, i was told that it's financial activities is monitored by one very reputable company , www.premiuminsured.com . What do you think about it? I checked on all the clients of premiuminsured among all the 6. All other financial services are established and are big financial company. Opinion?
i cant even find premiuminsured in google plus webtraffic is zero.
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/http%3A%2F%2...miuminsured.com
try google thier adress :
https://www.google.fr/search?q=Level+17+Das..._sm=93&ie=UTF-8
see the results have nothing to do with premiuminsured??
btw are you sure you are simply just a curious man? or one of their insiders who is trying to find the flaws in order to correct it? it seems to me..
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QUOTE(magpiethegreat @ Jun 15 2014, 01:14 AM)
i cant even find premiuminsured in google plus webtraffic is zero.
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/http%3A%2F%2...miuminsured.com
try google thier adress :
https://www.google.fr/search?q=Level+17+Das..._sm=93&ie=UTF-8
see the results have nothing to do with premiuminsured??
btw are you sure you are simply just a curious man? or one of their insiders who is trying to find the flaws in order to correct it? it seems to me..
I am almost a investor , I mean, almost, I have been thinking about joining for a week already, so you understand
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I am almost a investor , I mean, almost, I have been thinking about joining for a week already, so you understand
because you seem like knowing everything but in the same time ng clueless about it. i have more information but i cant tell everything here. i dont want them to know what i know.
forex malaysian style, indeed.
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Yes , you are right because the company looked so real yet suspicious, which made me clueless, can I pm u for more information ?
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QUOTE(tommy9097 @ Jun 15 2014, 01:23 AM)
I am almost a investor , I mean, almost, I have been thinking about joining for a week already, so you understand
my advice will be, if you wanna trade forex, pick a regulated broker, exp: fxpro etc. dont invest in that kind of "put money in and money grows itself" , it is not even forex.
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my advice will be, if you wanna trade forex, pick a regulated broker, exp: fxpro etc. dont invest in that kind of "put money in and money grows itself" , it is not even forex.
Noted bro, afterall, it's the problem of ability to bear the risk associated , there is no guarantee in this world.
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QUOTE(tommy9097 @ Jun 15 2014, 12:25 AM)
What is ur opinion about this company?
Frankly.. I dunno much about this company, but the way they are doing conducting their business sounds like a scam already.
We had many good example of scam company. And one thing we must able to see is all of them uses high monthly return to lure investor to be a victim.
From Geneva to all the others company. They focuses on high monthly return, like 3% a month to capture ur attention, because FD is just 3% a year.
So basically, this kind of company are using the same old plan, but uses a different thing to sell to you.
when market is singing seaweed, then seaweed plan comes out. When market is singing vacation, then vacation plans come out. When market ia singing herbs, then herbs plan come out.... and it will continue with other different product to entice people.
won't be surprise one day they will put coffin... so got a coffin plan.
Frankly speaking 3% a month is very high. If that 3% a month is talking about a limited fund size of rm 1m for example, probably I will still believe. But if it is talking rm200m to rm300m, 3% a month in a consistent manner, I am quite skeptical.
Then.. when they say they trade this and that, it will be good if they can provide trade records as proof. Many things can talk only. No trade records... sounds like another dog eat dog world.
but lastly, my own generated returns are far better than maxim trader. I got my own control, I know where the money goes, and I can cash out anytime to use. During good times, I can generate 20 to 30% return a month. So, not interested with 3%,where I won't know the fate of my money
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i want to ask for opinion ..i have been playing this investment call SEC(State Energy Capital,Oil and Gas Energy Corporation) .. in the booklet it have photo of Apostille,certificate of formation certified by Limited Liability Company and stated that it have assurance worth USD$1 Billion as backup.and for every investor that join ,it have give them Certificate of Investment and the Receipt ..i did do research and such investment is called as Face Amount Certificate Company ..and in alexa..it said that the "this site's metric is certified"
can i trust it ?
FYI,before that it was named as Toscana Energy,one of their investment oil and gas company,but now they wanted to do the investment worldwide so they changed it to their own name.. and the investment website link is sec-inv.com,in case you guys wanted to track the website
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They show you the money, and they give you the website that show you how much you have earn, but did you manage to get that money in your hand and spend it?
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I only know Maxim Club at Genting. Others are all scam.
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HI THERE,
I jz finished a presentation with the agent.. here are some recaps
a investment for 18 months can get up to 8%
USD 1,000 GET 3%
USD 5,000 GET 5%
USD 10,000 GET 6%
USD 20,000 GET 7%
USD 30,000 GET 8%
INVES FOR 18 MONTHS and get the percent each month...
this is some Q&A between me and him
Q: I ask how do you make money?
A : we take huge sum of money and invest. up to 3.5BILLIONs. we invest in forex. in and out, like how a stock broker earn your commission. of 3.4B in and out, we make 500Mill.
Q: is this business model firm and solid?
A: before I answer let me ask you. is 3.5B a huge sum of money? (yes), is 3.5B of business model a big business model? (yes), there you have your answer....
p/s, this answer is like religious group answer. slap... show me pain, you cant, but you can feel pain
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If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
Simple enough.
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QUOTE(tommy9097 @ Jun 14 2014, 09:07 PM)
Guys , this company has been receiving plenty of awards including Asian honesty award , most innovative broker of the year and many awards, check out their Facebook for more information. They also have their premier club office set up in Hong Kong , one more thing , they allows us to access to their trading accounts at myfxbook.com which really shows their profit that explains the high return they can pay to the investors , can a scam company receive these much awards ? Quite curious .. What do you guys think?
myfxbook link?
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QUOTE(Mc Kally @ Jun 25 2014, 11:17 AM)
i want to ask for opinion ..i have been playing this investment call SEC(State Energy Capital,Oil and Gas Energy Corporation) .. in the booklet it have photo of Apostille,certificate of formation certified by Limited Liability Company and stated that it have assurance worth USD$1 Billion as backup.and for every investor that join ,it have give them Certificate of Investment and the Receipt ..i did do research and such investment is called as Face Amount Certificate Company ..and in alexa..it said that the "this site's metric is certified"
can i trust it ?
FYI,before that it was named as Toscana Energy,one of their investment oil and gas company,but now they wanted to do the investment worldwide so they changed it to their own name.. and the investment website link is sec-inv.com,in case you guys wanted to track the website
Looks dodgy but this can be checked out easily.. what is the registered name of the company?
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Seems like they are still around. My friend ask me go to one of this talk, and before i agree, i ask him for info etc, and is almost like what you mention above. LOL.
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Why delete? Anything happen?
Not really.. I started out saying you couid actually make money in forex if you had a reputable broker and about 10 million.. and then I realized you'd probably make more than that in FD lol
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They have introduced a new company now. A friend was telling me about this new offer. Can't remember the name.
Invest USD5k and they will top up USD5k. One account will pay 8% per month whilst the other which they have topped up FOC another USD5k for you can give you bonuses every month. You are allowed to view this bonus account online too.
Seems many people have invested, some put in USD60k.
I am really worried for my friend who keeps putting in more and more money.
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i thought this maxim trader alr blacklisted in our government webiste? hmm... :/
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QUOTE(QueenE @ Oct 15 2014, 08:37 PM)
They have introduced a new company now. A friend was telling me about this new offer. Can't remember the name.
Invest USD5k and they will top up USD5k. One account will pay 8% per month whilst the other which they have topped up FOC another USD5k for you can give you bonuses every month. You are allowed to view this bonus account online too.
Seems many people have invested, some put in USD60k.
I am really worried for my friend who keeps putting in more and more money.
Pls give details of the new venture. I also want to put my money to gamble.
Thanks.
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QUOTE(Awakened_Angel @ Jul 16 2014, 02:52 PM)
HI THERE,
I jz finished a presentation with the agent.. here are some recaps
a investment for 18 months can get up to 8%
USD 1,000 GET 3%
USD 5,000 GET 5%
USD 10,000 GET 6%
USD 20,000 GET 7%
USD 30,000 GET 8%
INVES FOR 18 MONTHS and get the percent each month...
this is some Q&A between me and him
Q: I ask how do you make money?
A : we take huge sum of money and invest. up to 3.5BILLIONs. we invest in forex. in and out, like how a stock broker earn your commission. of 3.4B in and out, we make 500Mill.
Q: is this business model firm and solid?
A: before I answer let me ask you. is 3.5B a huge sum of money? (yes), is 3.5B of business model a big business model? (yes), there you have your answer....
p/s, this answer is like religious group answer. slap... show me pain, you cant, but you can feel pain
ask him 2 questions.
1. tell me more about your so-called praent company, Royale Globe Holding Inc. http://www.rogpholding.com/eng/home/index.php
2. why isn't this scheme is offered on the official site.
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So is there anyone invested in this program?
Any comment?
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QUOTE(ronn77 @ Jan 17 2015, 04:50 PM)
So is there anyone invested in this program?
Any comment?
haiz, my friend work for this company, so call 'trader', but have no Forex knowledge at all, not even know what is FPA, FF and Babypips.
people around me with or without high education background keep 'invest' and promote this kind of ponzi scheme - InstanForex, Maxim Trader and Geneva etc. Already feel tired want to explain to them.
Fast money huh
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I am suprise that nobody mention before about gwgfx in this thread.
Basically gwgfx case is just like this so called investment.
You invest a certain amount, have a lock in period for your capital, guarantee 10% profit montly and also invest in forex.
Gwgfx stay for 1 year only and after that stop paying profit and you cant withdraw your capital too.
All the so called investor now only just "pasrah" of their losing money.
Suprisingly, this gwgfx scam even crashed without the bnm raiding.
It is popular in flyingspaghettimonster forum you can search for it.
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Oppps, top management all got caught, die
10996455
May 29 2015, 06:42 PM
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Getting Started
This one ponzi ma
carrer
May 30 2015, 04:24 AM
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Posts: 158
Joined: May 2015
There are a few flaws which I found. I am not saying that they are a scam or not, but I am just going to tell what I found. I am quite familiar with Myfxbook as I am a forex trader myself, I used to set up an account and used their explorer.
This is the link to Maxim's Myfxbook - http://www.myfxbook.com/members/MaximCapltd01
1. They have 123 funds/accounts running under their company. That is just too many for a company to handle, unless they are using a common automated strategy, which I don't think they do as they stated they are manually traded.
2. All of the funds' track records are not verified (I didn't check all accounts, but I checked many and all of them are not verified). It means that there is a possibility that the user could supply a wrong information to myfxbook. In order to verify, you have to link your broker (through MT4) to myfxbook. A legitimate fund will have its track record verified.
3. The broker which is being used by Maxim is MAXIM Trader, which I believe is owned by Maxim Capital Limited of this thread. This is very unreliable as they could manipulate the data of their trades to make it look profitable. They could do whatever they wanted as they are the broker themselves.
They could be a legitimate investment company, or not, I am not sure.
Be careful.
Reference: http://www.forexbrokerz.com/news/ten-signs-fake-myfxbook
http://forums.babypips.com/newbie-island/5...k-accounts.html
http://www.myfxbook.com/help#help_34
thkhai
Jun 3 2015, 11:20 PM
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Posts: 69
Joined: Jan 2010
From: Kedah
Think twice before u invest.... See the link at below
http://v.ifeng.com/news/society/201505/014...c6ecce7ef.shtml
http://m.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/2015/05/3...ent-company.htm
jcage
Jun 18 2015, 02:45 PM
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As for me, I like only Bitcoin trading. I trade on http://www.ecoin.eu platform and get some good money from it. Have you tried it?
emeraldworld
Jul 22 2015, 08:19 AM
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http://rilek1corner.com/2015/06/02/beware-...s-in-singapore/